From SS3D back to SS2D....

[Stahlin]

OpenFX looks really good. Naturally it again has another user interface to figure out. But i like it.

The Blitzkrieg bitmaps are interesting, but they are a little bigger? I tried it for a while, creation of maps is a little strange but its a good game. I wonder there is only one site for it left and this takes no more maps since years. BKPortal has closed few weeks ago, they had a lot of stuff.

[JOSS[WildCat]]

Blitzkrieg units are 3D models!
Any blitzkrieg units we can convert to any 3D format for SS2d rendering !
ReScale, edit, change skins est...

Is new blitz-portal (need registration on forum for view)
http://blitzkriegheadquarters.com/

[Stahlin]

Real cool site.

I have tried bk but after all Sudden Strike is more fun, even if the graphics is better in bk...

[JOSS[WildCat]]

In BK only one + here are more screen dimention...
But no so opportunities for modding and for advance...
Low count of units on map, no airfield, no such animation est...

[Stahlin]

Dont forget the improved scripting! You can realize much more than with the restricted scripting of SuSt!

And the infantry looks much better. Most things look better. Basically, i dont know why it doesnt reach SuSt-fun.

[JOSS[WildCat]]

If the Red Ice pirat team is not sale by stealing Fireglow salaries we would have the game with supported the other screens!
Works were, but when Fireglow understood that the thieves did not even see that in Russia Fireglow changed publisher and again steal their work, it became clear that work in SS2d it's time to wrap up ...


TNX Tirli

Blitzkrieg have more opportunity but many opportunites no have what are in SS...
In Blitz are many troubles with realization what are in SS...

[Stahlin]

So FG thinks modern gaming requires 3D we gaming experts know better.

But that gives us the opportunity to develop our own descendants of the SuSt series...

But we shouldnt judge too hard with people who are learning and use materials from others. Whole history is full of that. Every artist has "stolen" from others. The difference was there was no copyright in these days, otherwise many of these old masters would have sit in jail.

And look at the chinese. They think completely another way about this.

And finally, do ya think Billy has developed MsDos himself? He took that and many other stuff from others, thats the way things are going.

[JOSS[WildCat]]

Reasoning can be long and even we can here correct the 10 LORD`s ...
But they are not "free artists"!

1. They sold the fan-site and fan-maps to Russian publisher without permition its creators!
2. They are selling a Fireglow patch for SSF to Russian Lohamei on CD!
3. They stole a free mod APRM 3.1 and selling to Russian Lohamei on CD!
4. They used stolen the engine SSRW from other official publisher in Russia!
5. They change Fireglow copyright by own copylefts!


So I am not surprised that they put their copylefts instead Billy.

....is not talking about law and morality ...

Since it for immoral man... this is senselessly.

Reasoning can be long....
But when it touches the person - you do not give a salary, stipend or honorarium, and they explain that it was stolen - I am sure all will understand the difference!

Reasoning can be long....
....but the fact is that - "thanks" to behold such bad gays real developer understood the pointlessness of this work to improve the game!

And personally repugnant to me, when some who call themselves fan of the game, as they are misunderstanding express them respect instead of disdain!

[Moby]

Joss, Fireglow is dead becoz of you and such blah-blah-producers like your ex-friend Magic touch ))
This 2D game is still alive becoz of real modders, and russians are in top of the list. You know russian progs ... hm very close )))) LoL

[JOSS[WildCat]]

Its realy funny...
TOP from bottom?
What russian mods do u know where no community works or no bugs what no in original game?

I know all progs but "russian" curiously appear only when others publish their same kind programs, but much better!

[Stahlin]

russians are in top of the list

So i hope we get some more of them in english or german. Cyrillic is toooo difficult.

[JOSS[WildCat]]

This fee moders, Hardly will do anything for free. But for the money sold a mother and a friend!
But back to topic ...

Next game what can be used...
Screens -




Extracted models - (3d max format)



Need poligons cranching and reducing to lowres but can be extracted not only 3D models, but particical effects, (animations), sounds, est...
Many different textures for any season or camos...

[JOSS[WildCat]]

Full listing of models (only unit files x and xx - are damaged scenes of models)

20mm_u_boat.max
61k.max
61k_x.max
61k_xx.max
88mm_u_boat.max
120mm_l50.max
120mm_l50_x.max
155gpf.max
155gpf_x.max
155gpf_xx.max
203b4.max
203b4_x.max
203b4_xx.max
305mm.max
305mm_x.max
ab41.max
ab41_x.max
ab41_xx.max
achilles.max
achilles_x.max
achilles_xx.max
adn_destroyer.max
adn_destroyer_x.max
air-bag.max
air-bag_xx.max
archer.max
archer_x.max
archer_xx.max
armor_barge.max
armor_barge_cs1.max
armor_barge_cs2.max
armor_barge_eng.max
armor_barge_x.max
armor_barge_xx.max
armored_locomotive.max
armored_locomotive_x.max
ba11.max
ba11_x.max
ba11_xx.max
ba64.max
ba64_x.max
ba64_xx.max
barge_industrial.max
barge_industrial_x.max
barge_industrial_xx.max
bedford.max
bedford_eng.max
bedford_eng_x.max
bedford_eng_xx.max
bedford_x.max
bedford_xx.max
bf109g.max
bf109g_x.max
bf109g_xx.max
bishop.max
bishop_x.max
bishop_xx.max
bk1124_k.max
bl6.max
bl6_x.max
bl6_xx.max
blitz3_6.max
blitz3_6_mgun.max
blitz3_6_x.max
blitz3_6_xx.max
blitz3_6_xx.max
blitz3_6eng.max
blitz3_6eng_x.max
blitz3_6eng_xx.max
blitz3_6f.max
blitz3_6f_x.max
blitz3_6f_xx.max
blitz3_6m.max
blitz3_6m_x.max
blitz3_6m_xx.max
bm13.max
bm13_x.max
bm13_xx.max
bmw-r12.max
bmw-r12_x.max
bmw-r12_xx.max
browning_stan.max
browning_stan_x.max
browning_stan_xx.max
bt7a.max
bt7a_x.max
bt7a_xx.max
carro15.max
carro15_x.max
carro15_xx.max
centurion.max
centurion_x.max
centurion_xx.max
cg-4a.max
cg-4a_x.max
cg-4a_xx.max
chi-nu.max
chi-nu_x.max
chi-nu_xx.max
cistern.max
cistern_xx.max
coaster_ship.max
coaster_ship_x.max
coaster_ship_xx.max
crane_m.max
crane_m_x.max
crane_m_xx.max
crane_rail.max
crane_rail_xx.max
crusaderaa2.max
crusaderaa2_x.max
crusaderaa2_xx.max
d1.max
d1_x.max
d1_xx.max
degtyarev_stan.max
degtyarev_stan_x.max
degtyarev_stan_xx.max
destroyer_k.max
do-24t.max
do-24t_x.max
do-24t_xx.max
dodge.max
dodge_x.max
dodge_xx.max
dodgewc55.max
dodgewc55_x.max
dodgewc55_xx.max
dodgewc_rigged.max
elefant.max
elefant_x.max
elefant_xx.max
fi156.max
fi156_xx.max
flak-38-1.max
flak-38-1_x.max
flak-38-1_xx.max
flak18.max
flak18_x.max
flak18_xx.max
flak38.max
flak38_platform.max
flak38_platform_x.max
flak38_wheeled.max
flak38_wheeled_x.max
flak38_wheeled_xx.max
flak38_x.max
flak38_xx.max
Flak41.max
flak41_platform.max
flak41_platform_x.max
Flak41_x.max
Flak41_xx.max
gaz67.max
gaz67_x.max
gaz67_xx.max
gaz67b.max
gaz67b_x.max
gaz67b_xx.max
gmc.max
gmc_cckw.max
gmc_cckw_x.max
gmc_cckw_xx.max
gmc_eng.max
gmc_eng_x.max
gmc_eng_xx.max
gmc_fuel.max
gmc_fuel_x.max
gmc_fuel_xx.max
gmc_x.max
gmc_xx.max
grant_m3.max
grant_m3_x.max
grant_m3_xx.max
hamilcar.max
hamilcar_x.max
hamilcar_xx.max
hetzer.max
hetzer_x.max
hetzer_xx.max
horch.max
horch_x.max
horch_xx.max
hummel.max
hummel_x.max
hummel_xx.max
il-2.max
il-2_x.max
il-2_xx.max
is1.max
is1_x.max
is1_xx.max
is2.max
is2_44.max
is2_44_x.max
is2_44_xx.max
is2_x.max
is2_xx.max
is3.max
is3_x.max
is3_xx.max
isu152.max
isu152_x.max
isu152_xx.max
jagdpanther.max
jagdpanther_x.max
jagdpanther_xx.max
jagdtiger.max
jagdtiger_x.max
jagdtiger_xx.max
ju-52.max
ju-52_destroyed.max
ju-52_x.max
ju-52_xx.max
ju-87.max
ju-87_x.max
ju-87_xx.max
k18.max
k18_x.max
k18_xx.max
karlthor.max
karlthor_x.max
kpvt.max
kpvt_x.max
kpvt_xx.max
kubel.max
kubel_mgun.max
kubel_mgun_x.max
kubel_mgun_xx.max
kubel_x.max
kubel_xx.max
kv1.max
kv1_x.max
kv1_xx.max
kv2.max
kv2_x.max
kv2_xx.max
kv85.max
kv85_x.max
kv85_xx.max
land_mattress.max
land_mattress_x.max
land_mattress_xx.max
lci(l).max
lci(l)_x.max
lcvp.max
lcvp_x.max
lcvp_xx.max
lg_40.max
lg_40_x.max
lg_40_xx.max
lvt4.max
lvt4_x.max
lvt4_xx.max
m2.max
m2_x.max
m2_xx.max
m3.max
m3_x.max
m3_xx.max
m3cannon.max
m3cannon_x.max
m3cannon_xx.max
m4a1.max
m4a1_x.max
m4a1_xx.max
m4a2.max
m4a2_76w.max
m4a2_76w_x.max
m4a2_76w_xx.max
m4a2_x.max
m4a2_xx.max
m4a3c.max
m4a3c_x.max
m4a3c_xx.max
m4a3dd.max
m4a3dd_x.max
m4a3dd_xx.max
m4a3e2.max
m4a3e2_x.max
m4a3e2_xx.max
m4a3m.max
m4a3m_x.max
m4a3m_xx.max
m4a3vc.max
m4a3vc_x.max
m4a3vc_xx.max
m5.max
m5_x.max
m5_xx.max
m5a1.max
m5a1_x.max
m5a1_xx.max
m7.max
m7_x.max
m7_xx.max
m8.max
m8_howitzer.max
m8_howitzer_x.max
m8_howitzer_xx.max
m8_x.max
m8_xx.max
m8grayhound.max
m8grayhound_x.max
m8grayhound_xx.max
m16.max
m16_x.max
m16_xx.max
m18.max
m18_x.max
m18_xx.max
m19.max
m19_x.max
m19_xx.max
m20.max
m20_x.max
m20_xx.max
m24.max
m24_x.max
m24_xx.max
m26.max
m26_x.max
m26_xx.max
m36.max
m36_x.max
m36_xx.max
m37.max
m37_x.max
m37_xx.max
m114.max
m114_x.max
m114_xx.max
maxim.max
maxim_quad.max
maxim_quad_x.max
maxim_quad_xx.max
maxim_x.max
maxim_xx.max
maxson.max
maxson_x.max
maxson_xx.max
mg1_ju52.max
mg2_ju52.max
mg34_dot.max
mg34_dot2.max
mg34_dot2_x.max
mg34_dot2_xx.max
mg34_dot_x.max
mg34_dot_xx.max
mg34_stan.max
mg34_stan_x.max
mg34_stan_xx.max
mg34_tower.max
mg34_tower_x.max
mg34_tower_xx.max
mg42_stan.max
mg42_stan_x.max
mg42_stan_xx.max
mk2a.max
mk2a_x.max
mk2a_xx.max
mk2daimler.max
mk2daimler_x.max
mk2daimler_xx.max
mk3.max
mk3_x.max
mk3_xx.max
mk4.max
mk4_x.max
mk4_xx.max
mk6.max
mk6_x.max
mk6_xx.max
mk7.max
mk7_x.max
mk7_xx.max
mk8.max
mk8_x.max
mk8_xx.max
mk10.max
nashorn.max
nashorn_x.max
nashorn_xx.max
nebelwerfer42.max
nebelwerfer42_x.max
nebelwerfer42_xx.max
oerlikon.max
oerlikon_x.max
oerlikon_xx.max
p-51mustang.max
p-51mustang_x.max
p-51mustang_xx.max
pak35.max
pak35_x.max
pak35_xx.max
pak37-t.max
pak37-t_x.max
pak37-t_xx.max
pak40.max
pak40_platform.max
pak40_platform_x.max
pak40_platform_xx.max
pak40_x.max
pak40_xx.max
pak41-le.max
pak41-le_x.max
pak41-le_xx.max
passengervan.max
passengervan_x.max
passengervan_xx.max
pdr25.max
pdr25_x.max
pdr25_xx.max
pg1.max
pg1_x.max
pg1_xx.max
platform.max
platform_can.max
platform_can_x.max
platform_gun.max
platform_gun_x.max
platform_x.max
platform_xx.max
po2_snow.max
po2_snow_test.max
pz1.max
pz1_x.max
pz1_xx.max
pz1b.max
pz1b_x.max
pz1b_xx.max
pz2f.max
pz2f_x.max
pz2f_xx.max
pz2l.max
pz2l_x.max
pz2l_xx.max
pz3.max
pz3_x.max
pz3_xx.max
pz3f.max
pz3f_x.max
pz3f_xx.max
pz3m.max
pz3m_x.max
pz3m_xx.max
pz4e.max
pz4e_x.max
pz4e_xx.max
pz4g.max
pz4g_x.max
pz4g_xx.max
pz4h.max
pz4h_x.max
pz4h_xx.max
pz5g.max
pz5g_x.max
pz5g_xx.max
pz6b.max
pz6b_x.max
pz6b_xx.max
pz6bh.max
pz6bh_x.max
pz6e.max
pz6e_x.max
pz6e_xx.max
pz_turret.max
pz_turret_x.max
pz_turret_xx.max
qf2.max
qf2_x.max
qf2_xx.max
qf6.max
qf6_x.max
qf6_xx.max
qf17.max
qf17_x.max
qf17_xx.max
s100_k.max
sdkfz4.max
sdkfz4_x.max
sdkfz4_xx.max
sdkfz7_1.max
sdkfz7_1_x.max
sdkfz7_1_xx.max
sdkfz222.max
sdkfz222_x.max
sdkfz222_xx.max
sdkfz223.max
sdkfz223_x.max
sdkfz223_xx.max
sdkfz232.max
sdkfz232_x.max
sdkfz232_xx.max
sdkfz234.max
sdkfz234_x.max
sdkfz234_xx.max
sdkfz251.max
sdkfz251_1.max
SdKfz251_1_x.max
SdKfz251_1_x.max
SdKfz251_1_xx.max
SdKfz251_1_xx.max
SdKfz251_6.max
SdKfz251_6_x.max
sdkfz251_6_xx.max
sdkfz251_10.max
sdkfz251_10_x.max
sdkfz251_10_x.max
sdkfz251_10_xx.max
sdkfz251_10_xx.max
sdkfz251_10c.max
SdKfz251_17.max
SdKfz251_17_x.max
SdKfz251_17_xx.max
sdkfz251m.max
sdkfz251m_x.max
sdkfz251m_xx.max
searchlight.max
searchlight2.max
searchlight2_x.max
searchlight2_xx.max
searchlight_x.max
sfh18.max
sfh18_x.max
sfh18_xx.max
sg_small.max
sgrw42.max
sgrw42_x.max
steam_locomotive.max
steam_locomotive_x.max
steyr_rso.max
steyr_rso_x.max
steyr_rso_xx.max
stug4g.max
stug4g_x.max
stug4g_xx.max
sturmpz1.max
sturmpz1_x.max
sturmpz1_xx.max
su76.max
su76_x.max
su76_xx.max
su85.max
su85_x.max
su85_xx.max
su100.max
su100_x.max
su100_xx.max
su122.max
su122_x.max
su122_xx.max
svarka_move.max
t20.max
t20_x.max
t20_xx.max
t26.max
t26_x.max
t26_xx.max
t34_0.max
t34_0_x.max
t34_0_xx.max
t34_1.max
t34_1_x.max
t34_1_xx.max
t34_2.max
t34_2_x.max
t34_2_xx.max
t34_3.max
t34_3_x.max
t34_3_xx.max
t34m.max
t34m_x.max
t34m_xx.max
t70.max
t70_x.max
t70_xx.max
tendor.max
tendor_x.max
torpedomine.max
torpedomine_xx.max
tortez.max
tortez_x.max
tortez_xx.max
tradevan.max
tradevan_big.max
tradevan_big_x.max
tradevan_big_xx.max
tradevan_x.max
tradevan_xx.max
tramway.max
tramway_x.max
u-boat.max
universal.max
universal_carrier.max
universal_carrier_x.max
universal_carrier_xx.max
universal_x.max
universal_xx.max
vickers.max
vickers_mgun.max
vickers_mgun_x.max
vickers_mgun_xx.max
vickers_x.max
vickers_xx.max
welberwind.max
welberwind_x.max
welberwind_xx.max
willysat.max
willysat_x.max
willysat_xx.max
willysmb.max
willysmb_x.max
willysmb_xx.max
ya5_k.max
zis2.max
zis2_x.max
zis2_xx.max
zis3.max
zis3_x.max
zis3_xx.max
zis5.max
zis5_x.max
zis5_xx.max
zis5eng.max
zis5eng_x.max
zis5eng_xx.max
zis30.max
zis30_x.max
zis30_xx.max
zsu37.max
zsu37_x.max
zsu37_xx.max

Tortez=A39 Turtle

[JOSS[WildCat]]

Next game preparated!
f.e. http://www.battlefront.com/products/tow ... llery.html


FIAT PF 508Converted to 3d MAX.





List of units.....

Vehicles:
BMW R75 w/ MG34,
CPM Ford FAT 2,
Dodge WC 51,
GAZ 67,
GAZ AAA,
GAZ M1
GMC CCKW 353,
Horch 830 B1,
Kübelwagen,
NKL 16 mod 1941,
Opel Blitz Fuel Truck,
Opel Blitz Medical Truck
Opel Blitz Radio Truck,
Opel Blitz w/ Tent,
Polish FIAT PF 508 Lazik,
Polish FIAT PF 621 w/ tent,
SdKfz 8,
Studebaker US6
UNIX P107,
Universal Carrier Mk I,
Voroshilovets,
Willys MB,
ZIS 5,
ZIS 5 fuel truck

Tanks:
7TP,
A12 (Matilda II),
A22F (Churchill VII),
A27M (Cromwell IV),
A30 (Challenger I),
A34 (Comet I)
Bataille B1 Bis,
BT 7 mod 1935,
BT 7A,
Hotchkiss H35,
Inf.Tank Mk III (Valentine),
IS 2
KlPzBfWg I,
KV 1,
KV 2,
M3,
M4 (Sherman),
M4A1 (Sherman)
M4A2 (Sherman),
M4A2 76W (Sherman),
M4A3 76W (Sherman),
M5A1 (Stuart),
M24 (Chaffee),
Pz 35t
Pz 38t,
Pz IB,
Pz IIC,
Pz IIF,
Pz IIIF,
Pz IIIJ
Pz IIIM,
Pz IVC,
Pz IVF2,
Pz IVH,
Pz VG (Panther),
Pz VIB (Tiger II)
Pz VIE (Tiger I),
Renault AMR 35zt,
Renault FT17,
Renault R35,
Somua S35,
T26 mod 1933
T27,
T34/85,
T34 mod 1941,
T34 mod 1943,
T40S,
T60
T70M,
TKS,
TKS/MG,
Vickers E dw,
Vickers E jw

Self-propelled Guns and Tank Destroyers:
Archer,
Elefant,
Ferdinand,
Hummel,
ISU 152,
Jagdpanther
Jagdpanzer 38t (Hetzer),
Jagdpanzer IV,
Jagdpanzer IV 70,
Jagdtiger,
M10 GMC,
M36 Jackson
Nashorn,
StuG40,
StuG II CD,
StuG IV,
SU 76mm,
SU 85

Anti-Aircraft Vehicles:
Crusader III AA Mk II
Flakpanzer 38t L (Gepard)
M16 MGMC
SdKfz 6/2
SdKfz 7/1
ZIS 5 37mm 61k
SU 100, SU 122, Wespe

Anti-Tank Guns
37mm Bofors wz 36
37mm PaK 35/36
45mm AT Gun mod. 1938
50mm PaK 38
57mm 6pdr AT Gun Mk IV
57mm AT Gun M1
57mm ZIS 2
75mm Field Gun wz 1897
75mm PaK 40
75mm Puteaux Mle 1897 26
76,2mm ZIS 3
87mm 25pdr Gun Howitzer Mk2
88mm PaK 43/41
105mm Howitzer M2A1

Armored Cars
BA-64
Daimler Mk I
M3A1 Halftrack
M8 Greyhound
NKL 26
Panhard 178 (25mm gun)
Panhard AMC P 16
SdKfz 222
SdKfz 232 8-Rad
SdKfz 250/1
SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. C
SdKfz 251/1 Ausf. D
T17E1 Staghound
Wz 34

[Stahlin]

Do ya convert these models 2 sudden?